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in other words, they can drop a drone on a u.s. citizens with no justification whatsoever as johnathan karl pointed out. it's murder without evidence behind it. the idea you can do this without -- i can understand if there's a plot you knew about but they say you don't have to have that evidence. >> now you're negative on obama. >> it's policy. >> did i hallucinate? >> i appreciate the intellectual honesty. one question has been that -- age-old question, if bush had done that, the website i should have created, web it was revealed president bush authorized the surveillance of telephone calls between american soil and someone overseas it was may help meo hem now president obama is doing drone attacks and the left -- the cat as got their tongue. >> can we stop calling them drones. they're peace planes, compassionate devices used to protect civilians from waterboarding by killing them. they're like planned parenthood with remote sensing. obama can do not wrong. if he nuked cuba they would laud him for killing the cuban flu. >> this is
in other words, they can drop a drone on a u.s. citizens with no justification whatsoever as johnathan karl pointed out. it's murder without evidence behind it. the idea you can do this without -- i can understand if there's a plot you knew about but they say you don't have to have that evidence. >> now you're negative on obama. >> it's policy. >> did i hallucinate? >> i appreciate the intellectual honesty. one question has been that -- age-old question, if bush had done...
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and drones, how the u.s. government can use them to kill its citizens, americans, if they are leading al qaeda terror attacks. >>> this is "cnn newsroom." i'm suzanne malveaux. we have learned more about the seven day hostage stand-off in alabama and now how it ended, the 5-year-old is okay, ethan. he spent the night in the hospital after being rescued during a raid on the underground bunker where held. his captor, 65-year-old jimmy lee dykes killed in the raid. he granted the boy, ethaning off his school bus, after shooting and killing the bus driver last week. they raided the bunker when they became concerned his mental state was declining. ethan's birthday is tuesday. he's going to turn 6. people are celebrating. the fbi is dispatching a shooting review board to sort this out. we'll talk to two experts about the raid and also about how hey child overcomes something like this little kid had to go through and the ordeal around it. >>> but, first, background on what it feels to go through what little ethan ex
and drones, how the u.s. government can use them to kill its citizens, americans, if they are leading al qaeda terror attacks. >>> this is "cnn newsroom." i'm suzanne malveaux. we have learned more about the seven day hostage stand-off in alabama and now how it ended, the 5-year-old is okay, ethan. he spent the night in the hospital after being rescued during a raid on the underground bunker where held. his captor, 65-year-old jimmy lee dykes killed in the raid. he granted...
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yeah you only have to read the african documents the u.s. afrikaans documents to know this is a long term plan how many times bill that we've heard or worley going to go in for a few months and stabilize the situation and we'll be out what's not going to happen is there going to be permanent french and this is slightly out of nato is ranger so they're doing this under a new offices and they're going to provide logistical support military trainers hardware build air bases and so you have these different pockets of africa where your west is vying for military station in control already the u.s. has a base and two boutique third launching joe drones from so you have the militarization of the continent of africa so it's a just briefly why a lot he got help from france to step in but the central african republic didn't get help when it did all because well so why would that be excluded do you think. certainly it's there's certain countries that have certain interests that were the forefront of countries like france united states britain and so fo
yeah you only have to read the african documents the u.s. afrikaans documents to know this is a long term plan how many times bill that we've heard or worley going to go in for a few months and stabilize the situation and we'll be out what's not going to happen is there going to be permanent french and this is slightly out of nato is ranger so they're doing this under a new offices and they're going to provide logistical support military trainers hardware build air bases and so you have these...
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u.s. government had only identified sixteen high value detainees italy is the only country where record criminally convicted officials for the involvement in extraordinary rendition operations canada is the only country to issue an apology to an extraordinary rendition victim i'm on here are are with who was rendered to and tortured in syria and only three countries in addition to canada sweet and australia and the united kingdom have issued compensation to extraordinary rendition victims and this report is rife with human rights abuses and it's clear that high ranking bush administration officials bear responsibility for authorizing human rights violations and yet no one was prosecuted because the u.s. government has. classified everything related to its torture practices and any accusation would be dismissed on state secrets grounds. journalist and historian douglas fountain time feels the anti terror measures in force by america overzealous because the government is riding the wave of t
u.s. government had only identified sixteen high value detainees italy is the only country where record criminally convicted officials for the involvement in extraordinary rendition operations canada is the only country to issue an apology to an extraordinary rendition victim i'm on here are are with who was rendered to and tortured in syria and only three countries in addition to canada sweet and australia and the united kingdom have issued compensation to extraordinary rendition victims and...
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u.s. and other countries to pass tougher and tougher sanctions on iran he really can't he's a really bad state so iran needs all the friends he can get there's no reason for iran should be isolated there's no proof it's developing nuclear weapons it's got a peaceful nuclear energy program which there's no evidence to the contrary so therefore it's it's wrong but it should be totally isolated. u.s. president joe biden joined the british prime minister david cameron for a national security meeting earlier today in downing street it was attended by british military chiefs intelligence officials and political leaders the american v.p. arrived in the u.k. monday following visits to berlin and paris for top level talks. as this report. for the vice president he is known for sometimes putting his foot in his mouth it could of almost being another gaffe but some a very quick to point out when he said that he talks of being delighted to have been invited to that meeting and of having spent half his
u.s. and other countries to pass tougher and tougher sanctions on iran he really can't he's a really bad state so iran needs all the friends he can get there's no reason for iran should be isolated there's no proof it's developing nuclear weapons it's got a peaceful nuclear energy program which there's no evidence to the contrary so therefore it's it's wrong but it should be totally isolated. u.s. president joe biden joined the british prime minister david cameron for a national security...
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enjoy he spoke of the u.s. and britain as having the most open relationship that they have with any country in the world well that's all well and good but is a satisfactory relationship everyone wants to talk more about that i'm joined by a member of the u.k. independence party stephen wolf thank you very much joining us to stephen open relationships let's go into that is it really beneficial day for everyone i'm not sure it actually is i mean it should be we are and we are two countries that actually share common values in terms of our legal systems our language the way that we look at business and it should be but over the period of the years that we have this special relationship to winston churchill the first court in the fridge we've seen lots of arguments between ourselves and those of you know states clearly there was a huge to. from the way that the british public did not want to get involved in afghanistan we also had a disagreement in the way that we did not want to get in vietnam and only recently we
enjoy he spoke of the u.s. and britain as having the most open relationship that they have with any country in the world well that's all well and good but is a satisfactory relationship everyone wants to talk more about that i'm joined by a member of the u.k. independence party stephen wolf thank you very much joining us to stephen open relationships let's go into that is it really beneficial day for everyone i'm not sure it actually is i mean it should be we are and we are two countries that...
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a u.s. and geo claims more than fifty countries were involved in america that notorious extraordinary rendition program some going as far as hosting the cia black sites for enhanced interrogation of terror suspects r.t. asks why so many governments got involved in what activists call state sponsored kidnapping and torture. and president ahmadinejad flies into egypt in what is the first trip of its kind by an iranian leader in thirty years the visit is seen as an attempt to improve ties between the two regional heavyweights amid rising tensions with his room. and broadcasting live twenty four hours a day with top news and commentary this is r.t. from moscow glad to have you with us now the french military assisted by local militia has taken the city of the last major city still controlled by islamist militants meanwhile warplanes have continued striking at the remaining militant hideouts in the far north of the country the french foreign minister has hinted that the operation may be over as e
a u.s. and geo claims more than fifty countries were involved in america that notorious extraordinary rendition program some going as far as hosting the cia black sites for enhanced interrogation of terror suspects r.t. asks why so many governments got involved in what activists call state sponsored kidnapping and torture. and president ahmadinejad flies into egypt in what is the first trip of its kind by an iranian leader in thirty years the visit is seen as an attempt to improve ties between...
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the u.s. and south korea reflecting their military muscles in the east china sea in itself to north korea's recent threat to conduct a nuclear test seoul said the drills are part of regular military training while pyongyang claims it's a plot to attack it human rights lawyer and co-founder of the national campaign to end the korean war eric surat can says washington is only pouring fuel to the fire it's the worst thing you can do under these circumstances is to inflame volatile situation to conduct these military exercises that always inflame that use live ammunition up and down the border with. north korea this is inflammatory on a lot of levels and we need to step back these naval exercises it's like a race to the bottom if you will when are we going to get more creative in the way that we resolve conflict in this world this conflict gives us such an opportunity with a new secretary of state new leader in south korea we should be pushing for peace suspend these naval exercises and go from th
the u.s. and south korea reflecting their military muscles in the east china sea in itself to north korea's recent threat to conduct a nuclear test seoul said the drills are part of regular military training while pyongyang claims it's a plot to attack it human rights lawyer and co-founder of the national campaign to end the korean war eric surat can says washington is only pouring fuel to the fire it's the worst thing you can do under these circumstances is to inflame volatile situation to...
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kuwait the u.s. and south korea of flexing their military muscles in the east china sea in itself to north korea's recent threat to conduct a nuclear test seoul said the drills are part of regular military training while pyongyang claims it's a plot to attack it human rights lawyer and co-founder of the national campaign to end the korean war eric surat can says washington is only pouring fuel on to the fun it's the worst thing you can do under these circumstances is to inflame volatile situation to conduct these military exercises that always inflame that use live ammunition up and down the border with north korea this is inflammatory on a lot of levels and we need to step back these naval exercises it's like a race to the bottom if you will when are we going to get more creative in the way that we resolve conflict in this world this conflict gives us such an opportunity with a new secretary of state new leader in south korea we should be pushing for peace suspend these naval exercises and go from t
kuwait the u.s. and south korea of flexing their military muscles in the east china sea in itself to north korea's recent threat to conduct a nuclear test seoul said the drills are part of regular military training while pyongyang claims it's a plot to attack it human rights lawyer and co-founder of the national campaign to end the korean war eric surat can says washington is only pouring fuel on to the fun it's the worst thing you can do under these circumstances is to inflame volatile...
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show me the memo eleven u.s. senators are demanding that president obama hand over classified papers dealing with drone strikes last night the obama administration's legal justification for targeting american citizens abroad was leaked to the press the details ahead. and the wheels on new york city buses are not going round and round that's because the drivers are on strike demanding better pay and employee protections will tell you who's being thrown under the bus while the workers continue their walk out. in a good bye for internet prodigy a solemn promise from those left behind to fight for internet freedom hundreds gathered on capitol hill last night to remember the life and legacy of aaron swartz our t. was there and will tell you who also was. it's tuesday february fifth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our team. we begin today taking a look at drone strikes targeting american citizens a confidential justice department memo just released reveals the legal justification for th
show me the memo eleven u.s. senators are demanding that president obama hand over classified papers dealing with drone strikes last night the obama administration's legal justification for targeting american citizens abroad was leaked to the press the details ahead. and the wheels on new york city buses are not going round and round that's because the drivers are on strike demanding better pay and employee protections will tell you who's being thrown under the bus while the workers continue...
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in the u.s. thousands of people forced to undergo lie detector tests every year that includes answering some very intimate questions that may have nothing to do with national security or he's a marine important met with a former cia employee for more on what's behind the polygraph. for more than three decades john sullivan worked as a polygraph examiner for america's central intelligence agency today the retired cia employee is offering some strong opinions about the nation's lie detector policy too many honest people are too many people who should be passing their tests aren't and there's no there's no accountability for that. last year more than seventy three thousand americans were reportedly required to undergo polygraph tests in order to get or keep jobs with the federal government according to an investigation by mcclatchy newspapers a growing number of u.s. agencies are asking employees and applicants intimate questions that extend way beyond the realm of national security probing matters
in the u.s. thousands of people forced to undergo lie detector tests every year that includes answering some very intimate questions that may have nothing to do with national security or he's a marine important met with a former cia employee for more on what's behind the polygraph. for more than three decades john sullivan worked as a polygraph examiner for america's central intelligence agency today the retired cia employee is offering some strong opinions about the nation's lie detector...
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but first as john kerry begins his new term as the u.s. secretary of state many of the ambassadors serving under him were major donors to the president's campaign a new report says this year's competition among big money backers to land plum diplomatic spots was especially tight or his government has more. as you can imagine the competition for diplomatic post is tough especially in safe and wealthy countries somewhere in western europe and asia a recent study by two professors of international relations at pennsylvania state university looked at available information on president obama's donors direct political contributions and the positions that they received and they concluded that those whose political connections to president obama were measured in dollars for the administration service had an increased chance of representing the united states and western europe and a smaller chance of serving in say central asia or sub-saharan africa donors and advisers involved in the diplomatic selection process say the competition this year has b
but first as john kerry begins his new term as the u.s. secretary of state many of the ambassadors serving under him were major donors to the president's campaign a new report says this year's competition among big money backers to land plum diplomatic spots was especially tight or his government has more. as you can imagine the competition for diplomatic post is tough especially in safe and wealthy countries somewhere in western europe and asia a recent study by two professors of international...
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foreign service u.s. embassies have come under attack in a number of countries in a number of muslim countries just within the last year the u.s. ambassador to libya was killed in september in benghazi shortly after the u.s. helped carry out wishing change there there's a said. of denial in washington that this rage against the americans in the muslim world has something to do was washington's policies in those countries the u.s. has been very much invested in the middle east and north africa from what we heard during john kerry's confirmation hearing at the moment the administration is reluctant to get involved militarily in syria and it's also trying to play and play down the drums of war with iran but that may change very quickly because the u.s. still continues to threaten war with iran it's unclear whether john kerry's role would be as of secretary of state in supporting or stopping a war he likes to present himself as this anti-war politician but he's the same politician who voted to authorize the i
foreign service u.s. embassies have come under attack in a number of countries in a number of muslim countries just within the last year the u.s. ambassador to libya was killed in september in benghazi shortly after the u.s. helped carry out wishing change there there's a said. of denial in washington that this rage against the americans in the muslim world has something to do was washington's policies in those countries the u.s. has been very much invested in the middle east and north africa...
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. >> the u.s. government can order the killing of american citizens if they are believed to be "senior operational leaders of al qaeda" or its subsidiary groups. investigative correspondent michael isikopf joins us now. we are going to be back to this in a moment because the president has come into the briefing room. >> on our budget and on our deficit, and these are decision that is are l have real and lasting impacts on the strength and pace of our recovery. >> economist and business leaders have said our economy is poised for progress in 2013, and we've seen signs of this progress over the last several weeks. home prices continue to climb. car sales are at a five-year high. manufacturing has been strong and we have created more than six million jobs in the last 35 months. we've also seen the effects that our political dysfunction -- the drawn-out process for resolving the fiscal cliff. the threat of massive automatic cuts have already started to affect business decisions. we've been reminded whi
. >> the u.s. government can order the killing of american citizens if they are believed to be "senior operational leaders of al qaeda" or its subsidiary groups. investigative correspondent michael isikopf joins us now. we are going to be back to this in a moment because the president has come into the briefing room. >> on our budget and on our deficit, and these are decision that is are l have real and lasting impacts on the strength and pace of our recovery. >>...
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the u.s. is among the world leaders in holding prisoners alone in small cells, in some cases up to 23 hours a day. in a statement, the aclu welcome the review saying -- president obama took his public campaign for gun control on the road monday with a speech in minnesota. with his state of the union address one week away, he emphasized his plan to ban assault weapons and increase background checks on gun buyers. >> we don't have to agree on everything to agree it is time to do something. [applause] there won't be perfect solutions, we will not save every life, but we can make a difference. that is our responsibility as americans. that is what i will do every single day as long as i have the honor of serving as your president. >> a number of republican senators have announced they won't try to filibuster the confirmation of chuck hagel as secretary of defense. the pledge by arizona senator john mccain and others likely means hagel has enough votes should another republican decide to filibuster
the u.s. is among the world leaders in holding prisoners alone in small cells, in some cases up to 23 hours a day. in a statement, the aclu welcome the review saying -- president obama took his public campaign for gun control on the road monday with a speech in minnesota. with his state of the union address one week away, he emphasized his plan to ban assault weapons and increase background checks on gun buyers. >> we don't have to agree on everything to agree it is time to do something....
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a bounce back from a big surge in u.s. home prices. they're increasing sides
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during his four years as commander in chief, u.s. military and cia drone strikes have accelerated in an unprecedented pace. more than 400 cia strikes against targets in pakistan and yemen. eight times as many as under president bush. >> they have been very precise, precision strikes against al qaeda, and their affiliates. >> these strikes are legal. they are ethical. and they are wise. >> reporter: but today, new questions about drone strikes targeting american citizens, including anwar al awlaki. born in new mexico, and killed in yemen in 2011. he allegedly directed the so-called underwear bomber, who tried to blow up an airliner over detroit in 2009. but awlaki was never charged with a crime. nbc news has obtained this confidential 16-page justice department memo that concludes lethal strikes against u.s. citizens, who are operational leaders of al qaeda, are a lawful act of national self-defense. >> we only take these kinds of actions when there's an imminent threat, when capture is not feasible, and when we are confident that we'
during his four years as commander in chief, u.s. military and cia drone strikes have accelerated in an unprecedented pace. more than 400 cia strikes against targets in pakistan and yemen. eight times as many as under president bush. >> they have been very precise, precision strikes against al qaeda, and their affiliates. >> these strikes are legal. they are ethical. and they are wise. >> reporter: but today, new questions about drone strikes targeting american citizens,...
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can kill americans if it suspects those americans are senior al qaeda operative aiming to kill other u.s. citizens if they cannot be captured and if they, quote, pose an imminent threat of attack. they can just kill american citizens. the document reportedly does not clarify exactly what defines an imminent threat. remember back in 2011, the feds said a drone strike took out the american born cleric awlaki, the first u.s. citizen we know the government killed. he was linked to plots against the united states so they killed him. katherine is live in washington. so we're clear, they can kill an american citizen with a drone, no lawyer, no charges, no conviction. >> no nothing. >> shepard: nothing. >> okay. that's at the heart of this. it's an executive branch assessment of whether an american citizen is an al qaeda leader and whether they pose an imminent threat. when fox news asked the attorney general to explain the difference between an imminent and ongoing threat, eric holder resisted providing details, citing classified material, even though this leaked memo is unclassified. >> i can'
can kill americans if it suspects those americans are senior al qaeda operative aiming to kill other u.s. citizens if they cannot be captured and if they, quote, pose an imminent threat of attack. they can just kill american citizens. the document reportedly does not clarify exactly what defines an imminent threat. remember back in 2011, the feds said a drone strike took out the american born cleric awlaki, the first u.s. citizen we know the government killed. he was linked to plots against the...
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if the u.s. believes that this the target has in the past been involved in such violent activities, and the target has not renounced such activities, it can be assumed that they are an eminent threat now, and that that would justify an attack. now, again, remember, we're talking about targeted killings of americans. we're talking about making decisions based on secret administration has publicly let on. >> mike, on the three part, so it has to be eminent risk. and you just described the broader concept of eminence, which is the phrase in there. >> yes. >> and that there can't be a capture that we're killing somebody because they can't be captured. there is also an elaboration on that which it seems to me seems to be quite a wide definition. i'm fascinated by the fact that we don't really capture terrorist suspects in yemen and somali and pakistan and these other places where we know drones, american drone strikes have killed people. people get killed there. they don't get captured. the definition
if the u.s. believes that this the target has in the past been involved in such violent activities, and the target has not renounced such activities, it can be assumed that they are an eminent threat now, and that that would justify an attack. now, again, remember, we're talking about targeted killings of americans. we're talking about making decisions based on secret administration has publicly let on. >> mike, on the three part, so it has to be eminent risk. and you just described the...
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as a u.s. citizen, we all have a right not to be summarily killed by our government without a trial. that's the legal just -- >> maybe not a trial, without some pross. >> without due process. without some process, whatever process is due to us. >> correct. >> but certainly not in an extra-judicial killing by a drone. >> under international law,there is no legal justification for targeting people without any meaningful oversight or articulable reason. there are rules that have been established in terms of the law of war and otherwise that keep governments from just dropping bombs randomly on other folks in different countries at which it not at wa and en t secd pie is the pie th vic brings up, which is the constitutional issue, that we certainly cannot and should not live in a country where the u.s. is targeting its own citizens for killing without any due process at all. so we've moved from the bush administration, where we started out with detention in guantanamo without charge or trial. and n
as a u.s. citizen, we all have a right not to be summarily killed by our government without a trial. that's the legal just -- >> maybe not a trial, without some pross. >> without due process. without some process, whatever process is due to us. >> correct. >> but certainly not in an extra-judicial killing by a drone. >> under international law,there is no legal justification for targeting people without any meaningful oversight or articulable reason. there are...
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policy on when drone attacks may be used against u.s. citizens abroad. specifically the white paper's focus is on who may be the focus of these attacks and at what point a threat is considered imminent. for more we bring in the man who broke this story, the great nbc's mike isikoff. mike, welcome. let's make it clear, if he can, from the beginning, whom does this memo encompass? for instance, would it include an al qaeda agent, say, living in europe, in germany, or in the united kingdom? >> most likely not. the memo lays out a three-part test for who can be targeted by a pilotless drone strike if there is a belief that the individual, the target, is an al qaeda operational leader. number one, there has to be what the memo describes as an imminent threat of a violent attack against the united states. number two, capture of that individual is not feasible. and number three, the operation has been under applicable law of war principles. if you go to the second part of that test, capture is unfeasible, it probably wouldn't apply in germany or the united king
policy on when drone attacks may be used against u.s. citizens abroad. specifically the white paper's focus is on who may be the focus of these attacks and at what point a threat is considered imminent. for more we bring in the man who broke this story, the great nbc's mike isikoff. mike, welcome. let's make it clear, if he can, from the beginning, whom does this memo encompass? for instance, would it include an al qaeda agent, say, living in europe, in germany, or in the united kingdom?...
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both were american citizens who had not been indicted by the u.s. government or technically charged with any crimes. this undated white paper, which was provided to members of the senate intelligence and judiciary committees last june on the condition it be kept confidential is not classified. it's been cloaked in secrecy along with the legal memo it's derived from referred to only obliquely in this white paper memo like at this hearing in march of last year. >> i still want to see the office of legal council memorandum and order you to keep working on that. i realize it's a matter some of debate within the administration, but. >> that would be true. >> with cia nominee john brennan's confirmation hearing set for thursday, the pressure on the administration to be more transparent will only increase. in the last year, the administration officials have given several speeches that were designed to give the illusion of transparency on this issue by the use of force in targeted killings without being fully transparent. brennan was the first administratio
both were american citizens who had not been indicted by the u.s. government or technically charged with any crimes. this undated white paper, which was provided to members of the senate intelligence and judiciary committees last june on the condition it be kept confidential is not classified. it's been cloaked in secrecy along with the legal memo it's derived from referred to only obliquely in this white paper memo like at this hearing in march of last year. >> i still want to see the...
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others are saying the u.s. is not doing enough, that they literally are standing by the sidelines with 60,000-plus dead and 700,000 refugees. still, as we saw in that israeli attack on syria targets last week, this crisis is more and more becoming a regional conflict, and right now some men and women from the states are more involved. back to you, jon. jon: all right. greg talcott reporting live from turkey. greg, thank you. jenna: another story out of the middle easts we're watching very closely today, iran's president making history, becoming the first iranian head of state to visit egypt since iran's 1979 revolution. his trip is the latest sign, some say, of improved relations between these two countries. such a visit, we should mention, would have been pretty unthinkable under egypt's former president, mubarak, who signed a peace treaty with israel which iran would, of course, like to see wiped off the map. they would like to see that of israel. meantime, there are tentative reports iran will hold nuclear t
others are saying the u.s. is not doing enough, that they literally are standing by the sidelines with 60,000-plus dead and 700,000 refugees. still, as we saw in that israeli attack on syria targets last week, this crisis is more and more becoming a regional conflict, and right now some men and women from the states are more involved. back to you, jon. jon: all right. greg talcott reporting live from turkey. greg, thank you. jenna: another story out of the middle easts we're watching very...